RE: The competition (CDDB2)

David Van Zeebroeck (dvanzeebroeck nospam at switch.be)
Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:48:21 +0100

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Has anyone looked at wddx ?

This is an "open" standard which does xml over http.

They have an sdk for both unix and windows machines. It's mostly for
datatransmission between 2 servers but i think it has potential.

the url : http://www.wddx.org

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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote:
>
> > > I agree that we should press on with our simple XML over
> HTTP solution
> > > rather than wait for an IETF standard to do RPC over the
> Internet.
> >
> > The SOAP i-d proposes a nice extension of the stuff we already do,
> > and going that step further, interpreting the data exchange
> as RPC is
> > quite elegant.
> >
> > What's the difference?
> > Instead of sending arguments to distinct URLs that encode
> the methods,
> > one states them explicitly in the HTTP message body.
> >
> > Plus you add an object, thus it makes adding different but related
> > services (think: mp3, DVD) easier.
> >
> > Can't see much room for evil here.
>
> Well, some points:
>
> - - The current draft draft-box-http-soap-01.txt is of category
> "Informational" which means it will never be any kind of internet
> standard. See RFC 1796 for more details on this topic.
>
> - - The draft makes use of the HTTP Extension Framework for
> the required
> M-POST command which itself is currently an expired draft.
>
> - - Finally, the current draft specifies soap.v1. IMHO this
> should have been
> something below 1 (e.g. soap.v0.9) before the protocol has been
> released as RFC. Else, implementation can't destinguish between
> pre-release implementation and implementations of the final version.
>
>
> IMHO, the draft is a nice way to do RFC (or even remote method calls
> like CORBA does) over HTTP, but it's too early to jump on
> this technology
> now. What we need is an API which can be immediately used
> right now. We
> can always switch to a better network transport protocol
> later. As long as
> the data model (and ID calculation) doesn't change, the
> transport protocol
> should (almost?) be transparent to the application developer.
>
> Cheers,
> Jochen
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RE: The competition (CDDB2)

Has anyone looked at wddx ?

This is an "open" standard which does xml = over http.

They have an sdk for both unix and windows = machines.  It's mostly for datatransmission between 2 servers but = i think it has potential.

the url : http://www.wddx.org

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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Marc van Woerkom = wrote:
>
> > > I agree that we should press on with = our simple XML over
> HTTP solution
> > > rather than wait for an IETF standard = to do RPC over the
> Internet.
> >
> > The SOAP i-d proposes a nice extension of = the stuff we already do,
> > and going that step further, interpreting = the data exchange
> as RPC is
> > quite elegant.
> >
> > What's the difference?
> > Instead of sending arguments to distinct = URLs that encode
> the methods,
> > one states them explicitly in the HTTP = message body.
> >
> > Plus you add an object, thus it makes = adding different but related
> > services (think: mp3, DVD) easier.
> >
> > Can't see much room for evil here.
>
> Well, some points:
>
> - - The current draft = draft-box-http-soap-01.txt is of category
>   "Informational" which = means it will never be any kind of internet
>   standard. See RFC 1796 for more = details on this topic.
>
> - - The draft makes use of the HTTP Extension = Framework for
> the required
>   M-POST command which itself is = currently an expired draft.
>
> - - Finally, the current draft specifies = soap.v1. IMHO this
> should have been
>   something below 1 (e.g. soap.v0.9) = before the protocol has been
>   released as RFC. Else, = implementation can't destinguish between
>   pre-release implementation and = implementations of the final version.
>
>
> IMHO, the draft is a nice way to do RFC (or = even remote method calls
> like CORBA does) over HTTP, but it's too early = to jump on
> this technology
> now. What we need is an API which can be = immediately used
> right now. We
> can always switch to a better network transport = protocol
> later. As long as
> the data model (and ID calculation) doesn't = change, the
> transport protocol
> should (almost?) be transparent to the = application developer.
>
> Cheers,
> Jochen
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